Directions: Please read and review parts VII - X of Anthem by Ayn Rand, pages 68-93. Next, compose a blog response using four of the questions below (one for each chapter) as a guide and four direct quotations (one for each question/chapter) in your response. There are fewer questions, but the answers will vary depending on your personal opinions. Remember to read each other’s comments and have a discussion. I look forward to your responses.
Ch. VII
- Why does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .?"
- When Ayn Rand writes, "for their eyes were still, and small, and evil," what does she really mean? How do you know this?
Ch. VIII
- What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
- Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
- What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
Dowol Lee
ReplyDeleteEquality says this because he has learned and gained understanding of who he is has changed drastically in a short period of time that he feels like he has aged. This is true both mentally and emotionally. “We are old now, yet we were young this morning”.(Page 68)
Equality discovers a river in which he saw his own reflection. He is not concerned about being one of the Damned because, he does not care. He doesn’t care that he is expelled from society, he actually laughs about it, because to him it’s funny. He knows he has more knowledge than anyone in the world. “And suddenly, for the first time this day, we remembered that we are the Damned. We remembered it, and we laughed.”(Page 80)
That statement ”There is no danger in solitude” is important because he doesn’t need his brothers anymore and he knows he is independent. There is no danger in being alone.
They find a house in the forest. It is from the Unmentionable Times. It was two story house, a flat roof, and many windows. The tree was hidden in the forest. They explore the house and find it very fascinating.”We both knew it without words: this house was left from the Unmentionable Times.”
I thought when you wrote about Equality finding the river in which he saw his own reflection. That it was interesting because he didn't care about seeing his face because he knew that he was already damned because he was thrown in the corrective center.
DeleteMichael DiCenzo
DeleteYasmiin Ali
DeleteI agree that Equality found himself as the smart one, but I think you meant to say he gained wisdom.
Anthony Dimuzio
ReplyDeleteEquality says we are old now, yet we were young this morning because he has been through a lot and he has been enlightened. He has been enlightened because he found out how the council really is and he discovered electricity. He feels older because he has gained more knowledge and when he didn't know as much he felt younger.
Equality discovers that he does not look like his brothers and he is different and he is beautiful and he doesn't want to look like anybody and he is happy about how he looks. “For our face and our body were beautiful. Our face was not like the faces of our brothers, for we felt no pity when looking upon it. Our bodies were not like the bodies of our brothers.”Equality is not concerned about being one of the damned because he wants to be different and he is happy that he is not being mind controlled by the council and he wants to be free and be his own self.
The importance of the statement there is no danger in solitude is that it means it is fine to be alone. That is important because everybody thinks that being alone is bad and they don't want to be alone. But being alone can be good for you because it is good to not be around people all the time so you can have time to think and relax. And in this situation it is good to be alone because you can be yourself and you don't have to fit in with everybody and be equal and lifeless. Equality is making a good decision to not be with all his brothers because they don't do anything for him and he cant talk to them because everyone has to be equal and if he has an idea he can't share it because nobody listens to him.
They found a house that was left over from the unmentionable times with a bunch of stuff that they never seen before. He keeps writing because he is discovering new things he never seen before and he is experiencing new experiences.
your response to the reason on "why there is no danger in solitude" was actually really interesting because I never thought that it could mean that being alone is okay. I almost found your response enlightening because I just thought it meant that no one else could hurt you if you are alone
DeleteJacob Moore wrote that BTW
DeleteWhy does god
DeleteJacob Moore
ReplyDeleteCh. VII
Why does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .?"
I think that Equality said " We are old now, yet we were young this morning” because he feels old now that he has learned so much. But he is young today because he is going to show everyone the light box and change mankind forever he says this on Pg 67 “We shall join our hands to theirs, and we shall work together, with the power of the sky, for the glory of mankind”. I think that he is trying to say that it's almost like a rebirth for him and everyone else because his discoverie is so big and will change a lot of things.
Ch. VIII
What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
Equality discovers his own reflection in the river that he passes. He is not concerned about being one of the Damned because he isn't worried about not being able to survive. At one point in the book he remembers that he is the Demand and he laughed showing that he wasn't worried at all for example on Pg 80 “and suddenly, for the first time this day, we remembered that we are the damned. We remembered it, and we laughed.”
Ch. IX
Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
I think the importance of the statement "There is no danger in solitude" is that when your alone no one else can create any danger for you. But I also don't really find that to be true because when your alone for a long period of time you can go crazy. It might be the case for this novel because Equality was being controlled by everyone but now that he is in the forest/solitude he has no more issues.
Ch. X
What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
In this chapter they find a house from the unmentionable times and they make it their house this is shown on Pg 88 “This is our home”. They are amazed by all the things that the house have inside them for example they find clothes that were not just white tunics but clothes with a bunch of different colors on them. Lastly Equality continues to write because he wants to share his feelings and writing is a good way for him to do that.
Nick Entner
DeleteI agree that the he has been enlighten about many things through his travels .
Jacob I think you did a great job with the questions answering them completely and with quotes
DeleteSuhani Karki
ReplyDeleteWhen Equality said “We are old now, yet we were young this morning…” it means that Equality had gotten wiser. This morning, Equality had gone to the World Council of Scholars and had gotten his idea rejected. But this morning after sleeping in the Uncharted Forest he has found out many different things about himself and the world around him: no bells to ring him up, being able to do anything, and freedom. Equality found out that he has so much more freedom/wisdom in the Uncharted forest than he thought he did have, “We thought suddenly that we could lie thus as long as we wished, we could also rise, or run, or leap, or fall down again.” (pg.78)
Equality discovers freedom in the Forest. He discovers freedom in the Forest because he can do whatever he pleases there. I think that Equality is finding a new sense of independence while he is in the forest. “We went on, without thought, without care, with nothing to feel save the song of our body.” (pg. 79) Equality is not concerned about being one of the damned because he can finally do whatever he wants; laughs and enjoys small things in life.
The importance of the following statement “There is no danger in solitude” is that it shows that shows how Equality finds flaws in society and how he didn't sin and it's okay to be alone. Equality finds out that the Council of Scholars are not as smart as they think they are, “You fools! You thrice-damned fools” (pg. 75). Equality thinks that he didn’t sin, and even if he did its okay, because ‘The forest disposes of its own victims.’
Equality finds a house left over from the Unmentionable Times. “We both knew it without words: this house was left from the Unmentionable Times” (pg. 89) I think that Equality was curious because he has never seen a house standing like that. In fact inside the walls were hard and smooth, like the walls in his tunnel. Equality keeps on writing so that he can share his feelings. I think that Equality is searching for his individual identity apart from the collectivism he has been exposed to for his entire life.
Nick Entner
ReplyDeleteShe says this because she wants to show the reader why the character would be afraid of something like this. She also wants to show that the council doesn't like the idea. They look at him as if he had done something that could never be reversed. They seemed as though he had done the unspeakable. The council was trying to make him afraid.
Equality discovers a stream in the forest. He sees a reflection in this stream. He was not concerned about being one of the damned because he new that he was able to survive on his own without any need from anyone. He has confident in himself. He believes he can do anything that he puts his mind to.
There is no danger in solitude because there is nothing to harm you or do anything to you. If you are alone with no one, on one can hurt you physically or emotionally. This means if they put someone that has had harm to themself, they are put into this situation they will have no way to be harmed again. This Could be what they do to Equality. Even though he doesn’t need to be put like this. For someone who doesn't need this it is every hard to live like this.
The discovery they find left over from the Unmentionable Times is a house. He keeps writing because he wants to share his feelings. He also wants to be able to express himself. I think that he should keep writing because it makes him happy. He needs to talk to someone.
Michael DiCenzo
ReplyDeleteWhy does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning?"
Equality says this because his day was difficult and it caused him to become more mature. “We are old now, yet we were young this morning”. Before he thought he knew a lot but later he realized he did not know everything. Since his ideas were not embraced he is considered useless.
What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
In chapter 8 while in the forest Equality discovers a stream he is surprised to discover that in the stream he can see his own face. Equality is happy to see his face and his body. Equality is not concerned because he doesn't think anything will happen to him or that he will be taken out of society. “Suddenly, for the first time this day, we remembered that we are the Damned. We remembered it, and we laughed.”
Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
I think the importance of the state means when you are by yourself all the time, there's no risk in being hurt. While equality is in the forest he is alone and he feels more mature.
What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
They think they see fire but actually turns out to be the reflection of the sun on the glass of a house’s windows. “We both knew it without words this house was left from the Unmentionable Times”. They realize without speaking that the house must be a remnant from the Unmentionable Times. Equality keeps writing because he wants to gain a better understanding because he has wwwshown more maturity since his has gone into the forest.
Dowol Lee
DeleteVery good job Michael! You did a job in answering the questions and used quotes for all of them
Hanna Saad
ReplyDeleteWhy does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .?"
Equality's understanding of who he is and how he relates to his society has changed so much during such a short period of time that he feels as if he's aged in a day. Mentally and emotionally.... tis would be true. He's found his identity.
What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
He found a river and saw his reflection. he does not think anything will happen to him, he knows more than the people who told him.
Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
There is no danger in being alone. that he has doesn't need his brothers anymore and he is independent.
What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
He finds a house and keeps writing so then on people may know his story.
Dylan Brenner
ReplyDeleteChapter 7: Why does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .?"
Equality says this because his understanding of who he is has changed him so much and he feel’s more mature and older in a way. He has started to find out who he actually is.
Chapter 8: What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
Equality discovered a stream in the forest and saw his own reflection as he was looking at it, “ For, upon the blue of the sky below us, we saw our own face for the first time” (80). He is not concerned about being one of the Damned because he knows he can do whatever he puts his mind too.
Chapter 9: Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
The importance of this statement is that Equality doesn’t need his brother that much anymore and he is starting to become a lot more independant. This statement basically means that there is no danger in being alone or independant.
Chapter 10: What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
The discovery that Equality found left over from the Unmentionable Times was a house, “We both knew it without words: this house was left from the Unmentionable Times” (89). I think Equality keeps writing so he can share his thoughts and feelings.
Dowol Lee
DeleteNice job Dylan. I agree, he feels more mature now in a short period of time. He has grown as a person both mentally and emotionally hugely
Xingyun Pan
ReplyDeleteCh. VII
When Ayn Rand writes, "for their eyes were still, and small, and evil," what does she really mean? How do you know this?
Equality doesn’t see any agreement in their eyes. The Scholars look at them with wild eyes like a beast. I knew it because the scholars do not accept Equality’s ideas and his lamp. They think Equality wants to use his lamp to replace their highest invention - the candle. They cannot accept it and they want to destroy them. The scholars are just like the people who are bound in the “Allegory of the cave” and Equality is the man who has viewed the outside of the cave. Both of them can’t take in the other’s ideas.
Ch. VIII
What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
Equality finds out that he can do whatever he wants in the forest, no one can control him anymore. He is free now. “We thought suddenly that we could lie thus as long as we wished, and we laughed aloud at the thought.”(p78) He discovers that he looks different than his brothers and he is strong and beautiful. He gradually has the idea of being individual.
Ch. IX
Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
There is no danger in solitude and every men could be alone. You won’t get hurt if you’re out of group sometimes. Everyone has different thinking and different hobbies. Sometimes forcing others to join a group that he doesn’t like will actually hurt him.
Ch. X
What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
They find a house that is left over from the Unmentionable Times “We know it without words: this house was left from the Unmentionable Times.” and some manuscripts with some word that he can’t understand. Equality wants to keep writing because he does not think that writing is a sin anymore and he finds a house for just himself and the golden one, he wants to record that.
Griffin L
ReplyDeleteWhy does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .?"
Equality says this because of what he has endured during his time of persecution.'' These great and wise of the Earth did not know what to think of us.''(pg 69). I chose this quote to show how they were thought as people and how the elders still didn't know what to do with the this particular situation. It also shows how severe the problem is Equality has encountered.
What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
Equality discovers that he is free while he is in the forest and he may do as he pleases. ''For, upon the blue of the sky below us we saw our own face for the first time.''(pg 80). This quote was significant because it showed how they were their own person.
Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
This shows their state of mind right now and how they feel peace in their solitude. ''We have no need of our brothers.'' (pg 82). This quote explains how they have abandoned the brotherhood and know solitude/peace.
What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
They found paper from thousands of years ago encouraging them to write on it.''We are writing this upon paper made thousands of years ago.''(pg 88). This quote explains there unique discovery to the reader and the significance.
Yasmiin Ali
ReplyDeleteEquality said “ We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .” and what he was meaning to say was he gained more knowledge and wisdom from figuring out the lightbox. He knew with age comes wisdom. The nights before that day, he was working on presenting his “invention” for the Council. “‘... How dare you think that your mind held greater wisdom than the minds of your brothers?...’”(page 71).
Equality discovers the forest after running away from the Council. He also discovers that the forest is very free and safe. Equality realizes that he can do whatever he wants in the forest; he doesn’t have rules to follow anymore. “We were thinking that these were thoughts without sense, but before we knew it our body had risen in one leap...”(page 78). Equality is not concerned about being one of the Damned because he realizes that he can now do whatever he wants.
The importance of the following statement “There is no danger in solitude” is that Equality realizes that him running away and staying in the forest isn't a bad thing. The Council told the people that they were not allowed to think or be free and so when Equality started to feel free he felt bad. Later he realizes that being alone and free is not dangerous. “We have much to speak of to ourselves, and we hope we shall find the words for it in the days to come…” (page 80)
Equality and the Golden One finds a house from the Unmentionable Times. “... we stepped together into the house of the Unmentionable Times…”(page 89). When Equality found the house he was curious what he was looking at. When Equality found the books he decided to write his feelings. It’s a great idea that he is expressing his thoughts instead about feeling bad about thinking them.
Luke Newton
ReplyDeleteEquality says “ We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .” because they have gained knowledge and are more enlightened than earlier.
Equality discovers the forest when he runs away from the council of scholors and he discovers that he is finally free to think and do as he pleases in the forest now that he is away from the city.
The importance of "There is no danger in solitude" is that they now know that being alone is not bad like the city said it was, and that it is complete freedom.
They discover a house from the unmentionable times and he finds many things that he has never seen before. He keeps writing because he is in awe at what he has found and wants to document it.
Robbie Mahlebjian
ReplyDeleteEquality says that they are older now in chapter 7 even know she was young this morning because, she has been through a lot and learned about a lot of things like the lights and sorts about the council.
In chapter eight equality finds a river and sees his reflection and does not get scared. He also does not care that he is one of the damned because if he wants to be different than everyone else. He wants to make to be different because he wants to build things and learn things too.
The importance of the quote "There is no danger in solitude." is that people don't have to fear being alone and it is sometimes good for us to think of ourselves than everyone.
In chapter 10 the group discovers a house from the unmentionable times and live in it. When living in their Equality learns about the word I and the importance of it and he also gives himself a name.
Olivia Dionisio
ReplyDeleteThe importance of "There is no danger in solitude" is that equality realizes that being alone is not scary and he can think for himself and make his own decision.
Equality says “ We are old now, yet we were young this morning . . .” Because he is smarter than he was that morning and has more knowledge than that morning.
When Equality sees his reflection and is not afraid of it and does not care that he is one of the damned because he is glad he is away from the city and he is glad that he is not like the others.
Equality finds a house from the unmentionable times and he keeps on writing about the house because he and Liberty find many new cool things from long ago and he is very interested in them.
Shruthi Saravanan
ReplyDeleteVII. Why does Equality say, " We are old now, yet we were young this morning?”
Equality says “We are old now, yet we were young this morning?” because from that morning to that moment his life changed drastically in such a small amount of time, he told the World Council of scholars all his secrets that he’d been keeping from them but the situation ended up becoming the exact opposite as Equality planned it to be. He wanted them to agree with him and change everyone’s life with his new source of magic he had discovered. Though instead of that they wanted to destroy that thing that Equality brought in with him as soon as possible and they already started to discuss their plan of punishing Equality for breaking so many of their rules and laws. “We have torn ourselves from the truth which is our brother men, and there is no road back for us, and no redemption (76).” From then to the time he said that statement the place he lived turned completely against him.
VIII. What does Equality discover in the Forest, and why is he not concerned about being one of the Damned?
While Equality was in the Uncharted Forest he comes across this river, so he bends down to take a sip of the water. Though when he does this he discovers his reflection for the first time. “For upon the blue sky below us, we saw our own face for the first time (80).” Equality also realized that he is now one of the Damned while he was in the forest, resting. This didn’t bother him though, and it was probably because he felt like he’d rather be one of the Damned and see life in the real way it is, to know the real truth that other people were trying to hide from him, maybe because they didn’t even know that was the truth. Instead of not be one of the Damned and be just like everyone else but also have to see life through all the lies everyone was brought up with.
IX. Explain the importance of the following statement: "There is no danger in solitude."
The importance of knowing that “There is no danger in solitude” is that sometimes people need to understand that some problems (not all problems) are easier and better to solve if you are alone than with someone else. Equality realized this when he and the Golden One were by themselves in the Uncharted Forest together. They both realized how it felt for it to be just the two of them and no one else. They figured that being alone can be a good thing not like how the other people back in the city explained it as if it was a sin. They saw how it felt to have their own ideas being able to think for themselves being able to say what they want and not what everyone chooses together. “But each day added to the chain of days between is and the City os like an added blessing (84)”.They both realized that having a lot more people doesn’t always bring a solution closer to every problem. It’s sometimes better to solve the problem alone.
X. What discovery do they find left over from the Unmentionable Times, and why does he keep writing?
The discovery that was found by Equality and Liberty was an abandoned house which was left from the Unmentionable Times. The house had many features which I felt like I would easily be able to find at a house in 2018, though I could easily tell when reading about both Equality and Liberty’s emotions that these features were quite different from what they are used to seeing. It was quite interesting to read how their society was so different from our and how much the people there changing their minds in the simplest things such as how should a regular house look like. The reason why I thought Equality was continuing to write was because that’s what he did before he had to escape into the forest. Whenever he made a discovery he was so fascinated about (The light) he would always write about it. “We look upon our hands (93).” So I assume that after Equality found this huge discovery he felt the need to put down his emotions on paper because that’s the way he’s used to when it comes to getting out his emotions.
nick entner
DeleteI agree that it is much easier to solve your problems alone in solitude. I agree that our society is very different between theres and ours.
Evan Lin
ReplyDeleteWhen Equality says that "we are old now, yet we were young this morning"(68), he means that he has been enlightened by the discovery of electricity, and that he is excited to show his box the the Scholars.
Equality discovers his reflection in the river. Equality is not worried about being damned because he is finally free, and has the freedom to do anything he wants now. "we remembered it, and we laughed."(80)
The meaning quote "there is no danger in solitude"(83) is that being alone is completely fine, because now you are the only person who can affect yourself, and no one else.
Equality and Liberty find a house in the mountains, which was left over from the Unmentionable Times. He keeps writing because he wants to share his knowledge to other people.
I like how explained the second question using qoutes and data from the text.
DeleteCelia Hoffman
ReplyDeleteEquality says “we are old now, yet we were young this morning”, because he’s implying that in the morning, before he met with the Council, that he was ignorant about how it was going to go and what their reaction was going to be. Equality is saying that he’s old and knowledgeable now that everything's happened. He now knows what he didn’t that morning.
Equality discovers his reflection in the forest. In a river he saw his reflection, “for, upon the blue of the sky below us, we saw our own face for the first time.” Then he goes on to say that he found himself beautiful and attractive and how pitied the other men for their looks. Equality isn’t concerned about being Damned because he doesn’t feel that he is. “And suddenly...we remembered that we are the Damned. We remembered it, and we laughed.” He finds it funny how he once thought being the Damned was a very bad thing, but now that he is the Damned, and he is doing fine in the forest, he doesn’t feel badly about it at all.
The importance of the following statement “there is no danger in solitude,” is the meaning. What Equality means when he says it is that there is nothing dangerous or wrong about being alone. When he says “we have no need of our brothers,” he’s telling Liberty that they don’t need anyone else, for help or just in general. He has finally stopped believing that he has to always has to be with or alike his brothers and he now believes in solitude.
Equality and Liberty find a house from the Unmentionable Times. They make it their home when Equality said “this is our home.” They found a lot of unfamiliar things from the Unmentionable Times in the house and were fascinated. Equality continued to write because he wants to continue to express his feeling and share his findings.